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Derek Neal's avatar

I had a similar reaction to the first post as those people who wrote to you, so I appreciate this more nuanced follow up. As for the masculinity prophets and such, they're charlatans, but they're also interesting in that they've identified a real problem, which speaks to their appeal. I find that they mostly attract curious people who feel that something is wrong, or missing, but who lack any historical understanding of themselves or the world. This is really a fault of education and a result of the fact that you can go through university without learning anything besides marketable skills or whatever. When Peterson or whoever expresses some idea, it's the first time these people are hearing of it, and they think he's a genius instead of a peddler of watered down pop psychology.

The best depiction of masculinity I've read is, in general, Knausgaard's "My Struggle," but specifically, one scene where his wife gets locked in a bathroom at a party, he tries to muscle the door open but can't, and then a big, strong guy breaks the door down instead. Knausgaard spends the rest of the party sulking and feeling immense shame that he couldn't help his wife, all while knowing rationally that this is absurd and that no one actually cares. To me, this is the tension: we know masculinity is ridiculous, but we still feel a deep desire to meet its demands and a sense of failure when we don't.

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Hilary J. Held's avatar

Have you read the New Yorker interview with Samuel R. Delany? I mention this not because it adds anything pertinent to the discussion of gender, though it might contribute something in a sidelong fashion - but because he begins his day with an evocation of Spinoza. It thrilled me.

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